Self-deprecation is worth its weight in smoldering phoenix-ashes and baby unicorn tears.
or; why Firefox is my favorite.
Published on September 8, 2007 By SanChonino In Personal Computing
DISCLAIMER: This is being posted on JoeUser.com, but, as with many of the Stardock sites, I'm sure it'll show up in other forums, too. So whatever.

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I hate Luna. I just hate Luna. It's why I've used ObjectDock for so long. But, being a cheapskate, I haven't yet coughed up the dinero to by Object Desktop in its entirety. (Don't worry, Brad, I'm going to. Eventually. Promise.) So my programs are left with that Luna look.

However, I recently reset my laptop back to "factory conditions" (an excercise in frustration, but a good way to get back to square one and something I do every 8 months or so) and, upon reinstalling Firefox, my preferred web brower, I finally went to town on Addons.

Now, I've used other browsers - of course, the atrocious IE series, 5, 6, and 7, and I've also had a hand with Maxthon (which wasn't as bad) and Opera (which I liked for its quick page loads). But I always end up coming back to Firefox. And now with all the skins, addons, etc. that I've put into it in the last couple of days, I'll never use IE again, except for my stupid bank's website (which, for some reason, won't render right in any browser but IE) and getting my Windows Updates.

I mean, with all the open-source options out there (and as a Linux newbie, I'm just cresting the ridge of open-source), why would anyone choose to use IE?

Just my thoughts on the matter.

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on Sep 08, 2007
I mean, with all the open-source options out there (and as a Linux newbie, I'm just cresting the ridge of open-source), why would anyone choose to use IE?


Page edits on JU.

Seriously. When I run JU in FF, I have to add html tags to my articles. Much simpler to use IE to run JU and not have that problem.

So JU runs in IE, 9Dragons runs in IE (it doesn't do as well in FF, either), everything else in FF.
on Sep 08, 2007
I use Ie6 I never have seen any problem with it, I tried Mozilla did not like it at all, never tried FireFox, I tried IE7 and hated it, went back to six where it suits my needs.
on Sep 08, 2007
I use IE7 for the same reason you don't, it's my choice. Really, that's what it's all about. Visually, all browsers appear the same to me, functionally I'm sure they each have little things they do. I've yet to have IE not work when I use it. Oops, looks like your bank made that choice too.

Choice, it's the one thing that no one can take away from me. I have to give it up, and that ain't happening anytime soon. You like FF, good for you. You made a choice and you are happy with it and I'm happy for you.

The way your post is worded I take it you have more than one computer. If not, and as you mention you are a Linux newbie why be concerned about Windows Updates? If you have more than one computer or doing dual boot it's back to choice.

Like you stated so well, just my thoughts.   
on Sep 08, 2007

Does anyone use IE anymore?

The answer to that is 'yes', and in a huge majority. Take a look at these stats Usage share of web browsers and you'll see that although FireFox has increased its share in recent times IE is still totally dominant.

For the record I use both. FF with its add-ons is useful for downloading large numbers of items (Download Them All). IE7 is the only browser I can access some sites with, and for moderating here it's the only one with all the admin tools working fully.

on Sep 08, 2007
It's all about the plugins, kids.

I, too, seem to have problems with html tagging on the main JU page with Firefox. (Not so on the forums . . .) But with all my ever-loving addons, I can deal with some html. I mean, check it out - I've got the download manager to run in my bottom bar instead of popping up in a big box, I've got a new skin on it that makes it all shiny and black, I've got both spanish and english dictionaries and active spellcheckers, and i've got a media player remote plugged in the bottom right corner, so I can control whatever player I'm using (and when I say any, I mean any - really, really obscure stuff. I can even control my last.fm radio with it, people) from my Firefox page.

I understand why you guys may stay with IE, but I'll never go back.
on Sep 08, 2007
The way your post is worded I take it you have more than one computer.


I do. I have one dedicated Windows laptop and one dedicated Linux box. So I do have to get those updates every Tuesday still . . .

And I fully understand why IE is still so dominant. Most computer users don't even think about what's getting them on the internet. They just click the button that says "internet" and go from there, and couldn't care less.

But I love my Firefox.
on Sep 08, 2007
Alot of the computer operated Audio/Video systems will only allow software upgates through IE , Some will allow me to use the IEtab addon for FF.Other than that FF!
on Sep 08, 2007
It's all about the plugins, kids.


I tried some plugins when I was using IE6 for the most part they were okay, but never really used them. Google plugins just caused me headaches. With IE7 I don't use any plugins. For me, streamline is the way to go.  

And I fully understand why IE is still so dominant. Most computer users don't even think about what's getting them on the internet. They just click the button that says "internet" and go from there, and couldn't care less.


Just what is a browser meant to do? Get you to the internet, right, unless I'm really behind the times.   

on Sep 08, 2007
They just click the button that says "internet" and go from there, and couldn't care less


I would add one more phrase "that it is made by Microsoft"

It does what I want it to do, I get what I need from it. If I am missing something thats essential to my life, I have no doubts someone will point it out, and some entrepreneur will produce it. So far I have seen no practical reason to change to another browser, and I have had a look at them.

Eventually a better Browser will get adopted by one and all, and doubtless I will use it if it meets my needs at the time. Meanwhile I am not into trying to be ahead of any crowd on these kinds of things, my focus is doing/achieving what I want to do/achieve with the beast, not spend my life tweeking it.

In the days of my youth I did the latter, until it penetrated my dumb brain that a 100% perfectly tweeked PC achieved squat, that 98% was great, and that I could use the countless hours spent previously on achieving the last 2% could be put to productive use.

why would anyone choose to use IE?

Because they are happy enough that it does what they need from it. Your not, thats fine, use another as you do, the Sun will still rise in the morning either way   

on Sep 08, 2007
Why doesn't anyone just use the IE Tab firefox plugin so you can view your IE only sites/pages in Firefox?
on Sep 08, 2007
That's way to easy PurrBall.       
on Sep 08, 2007
why would anyone choose to use IE?


My answer is simple. Because it's integrated seamlessly into my Operating System and Office Suite, that's why.

Ask yourself why would anyone use a third party browser that you have to plug in god knows how many ways to make it work correctly with your operating system?

"Oh my gosh, why did my operating system crash?"

I started testing IE during the Windows 95 beta period back in 1992, went through 9 test builds before it shipped public August 24 1995 and have been using it since. I have never had a single problem with IE. I can accomplish everything on the internet that these other browsers claim to do just as fast and safe.

In the early 90's people swore by Netscape as the best browser in the world, and guess what, it died, same with Opera, AOL, Yahoo, Mozilla and now there's the FireFox fad. IE is still here!

I say to each his own, what ever works for you is all personal. But that doesn't mean that everyone who chooses to stick with IE is any less knowledgeable than let's say a FireFox user!

FireFox may be here forever, or it may not. But remember this much, as long as Microsoft makes Windows, there will be a Microsoft browser built in with it. Call it dominant, monopoly, greedy, or what you want, but it works just fine for some people.

People who bitch about IE sounds a bit crazy to someone like me that's never had a lick of problems with it after 15 smooth years. I mean what's the debate here? I use FireFox, IE is incorrect?

I'm currently running IE7 and it's my usual summary, it works just fine for me!

For the one's who choose third party browsers and all that you have to plug in, more power to you.

Cp


  
on Sep 08, 2007
Why doesn't anyone just use the IE Tab firefox plugin so you can view your IE only sites/pages in Firefox?


Or why don't they run IE?

It IS about functionality. There are things I like to tweak, and things I just don't have time for. Most of my life is spent doing a million other things. When I turn on my computer, I usually want to get to the Internet.

And this is speaking AS a Linux fan. On my Linix machines, I use FF exclusively. ON Windows, IE6 and FF combo.
on Sep 08, 2007
IE7 on vista, Firefox on kubuntu desktop.
on Sep 08, 2007
Avant Browser on Vista, which like Maxthon and others, runs on the IE7 DLL stack. One in a while I find a page that doesn't load right, like Netflix for some reason, then I use Opera or Firefox depending on the whim that hits he at the time.
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